epa chief lisa jackson is stepping down. we found out she had been using an alias -- you know -- >> i am quite surprised that this is even happening because so far what you have seen is a lack of accountability. nobody's stepping down or stepping aside. when they said four officials were resigning and stepping aside, they actually are in fact going to be still retaining government jobs. why isn't eric holder stepping down? that should be the first one. >> how was eric holder involved in benghazi? >> he's not. follow the thread, okay, juan? he's doing the investigation -- >> no, he didn't do the investigation. >> no. remember. he was sending the fbi in to do the investigation, wink-wink -- that couldn't give imus answers before the presidential election. but holder was going to get back to us. >> what about this -- can you imagine -- >> i like the wink. that was good. >> lisa jackson was using an alias, a male alias to conduct official business. >> 12,000 emails -- it's like petraeus and the admiral, what are they doing? when